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HPE Slides Following a Revenue Miss; CFO Talks to TheStreet

HPE Slides Following a Revenue Miss; CFO Talks to TheStreet

慧與在收入小姐之後進行投影;財務長與與街頭交談
TheStreet ·  2020/03/04 12:00

Traditional enterprise server and storage sales are under pressure, and HP Enterprise( HPE ) - Get Reporthasn’t been immune to the downturn.

傳統的企業服務器和存儲銷售面臨壓力,惠普企業(HPE)-Get Report未能倖免於經濟低迷。

HPE fell 5.8% in after-hours trading Tuesday to $11.86, and made new 52-week lows, after the IT hardware giant reported January quarter (fiscal first quarter) revenue of $6.95 billion, down 8% annually and missing a $7.21 billion consensus. Non-GAAP EPS of $0.44, which benefited from gross margin growth, spending cuts and stock buybacks, was up 5% and in-line with consensus.

HPE週二在盤後交易中下跌5.8%,至11.86美元,創下52周新低,此前這家IT硬件巨頭公佈1月份季度(第一財季)營收為69.5億美元,同比下降8%,未能達到72.1億美元的共識。受益於毛利率增長、支出削減和股票回購,非公認會計準則每股收益為0.44美元,增長了5%,符合共識。

HPE reiterated fiscal 2020 (ends in Oct. 2020) EPS guidance of $1.78 to $1.94. However, citing the impact of “supply chain disruption” on cash conversion cycles, the company cut its fiscal 2020 free cash flow guidance by $300 million to a range of $1.6 billion to $1.8 billion.

HPE重申2020財年(將於2020年10月結束)每股收益指引為1.78美元至1.94美元。然而,該公司以“供應鏈中斷”對現金轉換週期的影響為由,將2020財年的自由現金流指引下調了3億美元,至16億至18億美元。

In addition, citing uncertainty about the COVID-19 outbreak’s impact on both its supply chain and customer demand, HPE declined to provide an April quarter EPS outlook. And on its earnings call, HPE said its fiscal 2020 revenue is unlikely to be up (the pre-earnings consensus was for revenue to be down 0.8%).

此外,由於新冠肺炎疫情對其供應鏈和客户需求的影響存在不確定性,恆隆銀行拒絕提供4月當季每股收益展望。在財報電話會議上,HPE表示,其2020財年的收入不太可能上升(盈利前的共識是收入下降0.8%)。

The numbers come after peers Dell Technologies( DELL ) - Get Report, NetApp( NTAP ) - Get Reportand Cisco Systems( CSCO ) - Get Reportalso reported data center hardware sales declines for their January quarters. Regional macro pressures and the passing on of lower memory costs have been headwinds, but so have public cloud infrastructure (IaaS) adoption and a secular shift in IT spending towards software and cloud services.

這些數字緊隨同行之後戴爾技術(戴爾)-獲取報告,NetApp(NTAP)-獲取報告和思科系統(中遠集團)-Get Report還報告了1月份季度數據中心硬件銷售下降。地區宏觀壓力和較低內存成本的轉嫁一直是不利因素,但公共雲基礎設施(IaaS)的採用以及IT支出向軟件和雲服務的長期轉移也是不利因素。

For its part, HPE said its January quarter sales were hurt by “uneven and unpredictable demand” due to macro uncertainty, as well as component shortages and North American manufacturing capacity constraints caused by consolidation efforts.

就HPE而言,該公司表示,由於宏觀不確定性,以及整合努力導致的零部件短缺和北美製造產能限制,其1月份季度的銷售受到“不均衡和不可預測的需求”的影響。

After HPE’s call, I once more had a chance to talk with CFO Tarek Robbiati. Here are some notable comments that Robbiati made, slightly edited for clarity.

在HPE的電話之後,I又一次有機會與首席財務官塔裏克·羅比亞蒂交談。以下是羅比亞蒂發表的一些值得注意的評論,為清晰起見,略有編輯。

On the performance of HPE’s Compute (mainstream server) business, and the factors that led Compute revenue to drop 15% even as units rose by a mid-single digit percentage excluding China and “tier-1” cloud service providers.

對HPE的計算(主流服務器)業務的表現,以及導致計算收入下降15%的因素,儘管單位增長了中位數百分比,不包括中國和“一線”雲服務提供商。

“The reason why the revenue is down and the units are up excluding tier-1 and China is the pressure on price. It’s not the mix effect on the configuration...but there is price pressure because commodities are down. And therefore, we had to pass on some of that benefit from commodities pricing to customers.

“不含一線和中國的營收下降,單位上升的原因是價格的壓力。這不是配置上的組合效應……但存在價格壓力,因為大宗商品價格下跌。因此,我們不得不將大宗商品定價帶來的部分好處轉嫁給客户。

“But when you look at net-net, what has happened, our gross margins between the price and the cost...have gone up across the company by about 230 basis points.”

“但當你看到淨值時,發生了什麼,我們價格與成本之間的毛利率……在整個公司範圍內上升了約230個基點。”

On whether HPE, like Dell, sees server revenue returning to growth later this year.

HPE是否會像戴爾一樣,在今年晚些時候看到服務器收入恢復增長。

“We do expect this trend...between price and cost of commodities to reverse. The reason being, at some point commodity prices will go up again. And therefore, at some point, the price has to be lifted up again. And so, we are...closer to that inflection point.

“我們確實預計……大宗商品價格和成本之間的這種趨勢會逆轉。”原因是,在某個時候,大宗商品價格將再次上漲。因此,在某個時候,價格必須再次上調。因此,我們正……更接近那個拐點。

“And we do so see also...the need to have more and more powerful machines to cater for more and more data-processing. And that is also a positive for the server business.”

我們也看到了……需要越來越強大的機器來滿足越來越多的數據處理需求。這對服務器業務來説也是一個利好消息。

On whether -- at a time when public cloud giants continue seeing strong growth -- if HPE has seen any changes in what customers are telling it about cloud adoption.

在公共雲巨頭繼續強勁增長之際,HPE是否看到客户對雲採用的看法發生了任何變化。

“It’s the same. I think the important thing here is to understand that what customers are considering is a different experience that is cloud-like on-prem[ise]. And this is why our GreenLake offerings are so successful…[Their orders rose] by 48% in the quarter.”

他説:“這都是一樣的。我認為重要的是要了解客户正在考慮的是一種不同的體驗,即類似雲的本地體驗[ISE]。這就是為什麼我們的綠湖產品如此成功的原因…[他們的訂單增加了]本季度增長了48%。

“There is a great opportunity for us to change the way our customers not just pay for the services, but actually consume IT infrastructure through us on-prem, under their control, which is a major differentiator relative to the cloud.

對於我們來説,這是一個很好的機會,不僅可以改變我們的客户為服務付費的方式,而且還可以在他們的控制下,通過我們的本地服務來實際消費IT基礎設施,這是相對於雲的一個主要區別。

The cloud continues. There are some workloads it makes sense to go into the cloud with. Others, probably not.”

烏雲還在繼續。有一些工作負載進入雲是有意義的。其他人可能就不會了。

On how HPE expects the growth rate for the annual revenue run rate (ARR) for its “as-a-service” hardware solutions to trend, following 19% January quarter growth.

在1月份的季度增長19%之後,HPE如何預測其作為服務的硬件解決方案的年度收入運行率(ARR)增長率將成為趨勢。

“The annual revenue run rate...was up 19% year over year. And if you think about where that is going, the funnel that fuels ARR is the GreenLake orders. The GreenLake orders are at 48%. That’s the funnel that feeds the balance sheet, and revenue is recognized over time and the ARR therefore is recognized over time. As long as the funnel is strong, then ARR will eventually accelerate.

“年度營收增長率……同比增長了19%。如果你想一想這將走向何方,推動ARR的漏斗就是綠湖教團。綠湖的訂單比例為48%。這是補充資產負債表的漏斗,收入是隨着時間的推移而確認的,因此ARR也是隨着時間的推移而確認的。只要漏斗很強,ARR最終就會加速。

Now, it doesn’t happen linearly over the course of the year, but it does accelerate. And that’s why we guided we would be driving an annualized revenue run rate for our as-a-service business in the 30% to 40% compounded annual growth rate range [from fiscal 2019 to fiscal 2022].”

現在,它在一年中不是線性發生的,但它確實加速了。這就是為什麼我們指導我們將我們的服務業務的年化收入運行率保持在30%至40%的複合年增長率範圍內[從2019財年到2022財年].”

On whether HPE (like others) is starting to see DRAM and NAND flash memory prices rise, and how this will impact its gross margin going forward.

關於HPE(和其他公司一樣)是否開始看到DRAM和NAND閃存價格上漲,以及這將如何影響其未來的毛利率。

“Our gross margins expanded 230 basis points year-over-year in the [past] quarter. And that is a function of the fact that those commodity costs are going down. And though we passed some of those benefits to customers...we didn’t pass as much of the cost [changes] by way of price.

我們的毛利率比去年同期增長了230個基點[過去時]25美分。這是因為這些大宗商品的成本正在下降。儘管我們將其中的一些好處轉嫁給了客户……但我們沒有轉嫁那麼多的成本[變化]以價格的方式。

“So that is underpinning our gross margin performance. Having said that, moving forward, we do believe that those commodity costs will increase, and therefore that trend will reverse.”

因此,這是我們毛利率表現的基礎。話雖如此,展望未來,我們確實認為這些大宗商品成本將會上升,因此這一趨勢將會逆轉。

On where HPE is seeing component supply constraints, and if those constraints are expected to continue through this quarter.

關於HPE在哪裏看到了零部件供應限制,以及這些限制預計是否會持續到本季度。

“[The] usual suspects are there [for component constraints]. CPUs, SSDs, pretty much across the board.”

“[這個]通常的嫌疑犯都在那裏[對於組件約束]。CPU、固態硬盤,幾乎無所不包。

“Much depends on what happens to factories. The complication factor here is coronavirus, and factories are coming more and more online, but not at a 100% capacity utilization...You can [see] all the press releases from various players. They point to a stabilization of the factory/manufacturing environment, with capacity ramping up. [But] we’re not yet at 100% capacity.

“這在很大程度上取決於工廠會發生什麼。這裏的複雜因素是冠狀病毒,工廠越來越多地上線,但沒有達到100%的產能利用率……您可以[看見]來自不同玩家的所有新聞稿。他們指出,隨着產能的增加,工廠/製造環境趨於穩定。[但]我們還沒有達到100%的載客量。

“So, how quickly will that happen...there we have some insights. But I do believe the situation remains fluid because of coronavirus. It really depends on what happens with that.”

那麼,這將以多快的速度發生……在這方面,我們有一些見解。但我確實認為,由於冠狀病毒的原因,情況仍然不穩定。這真的要看接下來會發生什麼。

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