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Tesla Would Use LiDAR If Elon Musk Ever Drove on China's Highways at Night, Li Auto CEO Says

Tesla Would Use LiDAR If Elon Musk Ever Drove on China's Highways at Night, Li Auto CEO Says

蔚來汽車首席執行官表示,如果埃隆·馬斯克在中國的高速公路上晚上駕駛,特斯拉將會使用激光雷達。
CnEVPost ·  12/27 17:21

For a driver who regularly drives at night in China, large trucks with broken taillights are likely to be seen, posing a challenge to the camera's ability to recognize them, Li Auto CEO said.

李汽車的首席執行官表示,對於在中國夜間定期駕駛的司機而言,損壞尾燈的大貨車很可能會被看到,這對攝像頭識別它們的能力構成挑戰。

(A Tesla Model 3 on display at the June 2024 new energy vehicle show in Shanghai. Image credit: CnEVPost)
(一輛特斯拉Model 3在2024年6月的新能源汽車展會上展示。圖片來源:CnEVPost)

The debate over whether smart electric vehicles (EVs) should carry LiDAR continues, with the CEO of Li Auto defending the use of the component in his company's models.

關於智能電動車(EV)是否應該配備激光雷達的爭論仍在繼續,李汽車首席執行官爲其公司車型中使用該組件辯護。

"I believe that if Musk had ever driven on different highways in China deep in the night, he would have chosen to keep a LiDAR in the front as well," Li Xiang, founder, chairman, and CEO of Li Auto, said at an AI Talk event on Wednesday, according to a text released yesterday by the automaker.

李翔在週三的人工智能交談活動中提到,"我相信如果馬斯克曾經在中國的不同高速公路上深夜駕駛,他也會選擇在前面保留一個激光雷達,"這是根據汽車製造商昨天發佈的文本。

Li mentioned this in response to a question about why Li Auto is using LiDAR when Elon Musk' Tesla isn't.

李在被問及爲什麼李汽車使用激光雷達而特斯拉卻不使用時提到了這一點。

Tesla takes safety just as seriously, but Musk needs to understand the driving environment in China, Li said.

特斯拉同樣重視安全,但馬斯克需要了解中國的駕駛環境,李說。

Li Auto is reserving its use of LiDAR, not because the technology is bad, but because of safety, Li said.

李汽車保留使用激光雷達的做法,並不是因爲這一技術差,而是出於安全考慮,李表示。

"China is different from the US. If you regularly drive at night in China, you'll see large trucks with broken taillights, and the large trucks with broken taillights maybe even parked right on the main road," the Li Auto CEO said.

李汽車的首席執行官表示,"中國與美國不同。如果你在中國夜間定期駕駛,你會看到許多尾燈損壞的大貨車,而且這些大貨車可能甚至停在主要道路上。"

Currently, in an unlit environment deep in the night, cameras can only see objects slightly more than 100 meters away at best, but LiDAR has a detection range of 200 meters, he said.

目前,在黑暗中的無光環境下,攝像頭最多隻能看到超過100米的物體,但激光雷達的探測區間可以達到200米,他說。

It is with the support of this capability of LiDAR that Li Auto is able to implement the AEB (automatic emergency braking) function at speeds of 130 kilometers per hour, Li said.

正是憑藉激光雷達的這種能力,理想汽車才能在每小時130公里的速度下實現AEb(自動緊急制動)功能,李說。

"I think it's very important because our cars are family-oriented and the safety of everyone's life is very important," he said.

「我認爲這非常重要,因爲我們的汽車是以家庭爲導向的,每個人的生命安全非常重要,」他說。

"That's the fundamental reason we continue to keep LiDAR and will still keep it in future models," Li added.

「這就是我們繼續保留激光雷達,並將在未來車型中繼續保留它的根本原因,」李補充道。

(A Li Auto Li L7 on display at a CATL showroom in Chengdu, Sichuan province in August 2024. Image credit: CnEVPost)
(一輛理想汽車的理想L7於2024年8月在四川省成都的一家寧德時代展廳展出。圖片來源:CnEVPost)

Tesla is the foremost proponent of the pure vision smart driving solution, and its management had expressed its dislike for LiDAR several times over the past few years.

特斯拉是純視覺智能駕駛解決方案的主要倡導者,其管理層在過去幾年裏多次表達對激光雷達的不滿。

On December 10, Tesla's vice president of external affairs Grace Tao reiterated Musk's judgment on the autonomous driving route in a Weibo post, saying that only pure vision will enable safer and smarter fully autonomous driving.

12月10日,特斯拉外部事務副總裁Grace Tao在一條微博(臨時代碼)發帖中重申了馬斯克對自動駕駛路線的判斷,稱只有純視覺才能實現更安全、更智能的完全自動駕駛。

Roads and traffic regulations are designed for human eyes, optic nerves and brains. In such roads, only cameras, visual neural networks and autonomous driving hardware can mimic human observation, perception and decision-making habits, making it possible to achieve driving results that rival or even surpass those of humans, Tao said.

道路和交通規則是爲人類的眼睛、視神經和大腦設計的。在這樣的道路上,只有攝像頭、視覺神經網絡和自動駕駛硬件可以模擬人類的觀察、感知和決策習慣,從而實現與人類相媲美甚至超越人類的駕駛結果,Tao說。

If the information from the radar and the camera contradicts each other, the vehicle's brain will have a hard time making a decision, Tao said at the time, adding that the addition of LiDAR will also increase the cost of the vehicle.

陶當時表示,如果雷達和攝像頭的信息相互矛盾,車輛的大腦將很難做出決策,並補充說激光雷達的加入也將增加車輛的成本。

In China, LiDAR is now used on basically all mainstream high-end EVs.

在中國,激光雷達現在幾乎被所有主流高端新能源汽車所使用。

Interestingly, Xpeng (NYSE: XPEV) ditched the use of LiDAR for its new sedan, the P7+, which was launched on November 7, after CnEVPost mentioned the shift in strategy in a July 9 exclusive report.

有趣的是,小鵬(紐交所:XPEV)在11月7日推出的新轎車P7+放棄了激光雷達的使用,此前CnEVPost在7月9日的獨家報道中提到這一策略的轉變。

Earlier this month, Xpeng made regulatory filings for the facelifted G6 and G9, with specs hinting at the removal of the LiDAR option for both SUV (sport utility vehicle) models.

本月早些時候,小鵬對改款的G6和G9進行了監管申報,規格顯示這兩款SUV(運動型多用途車)均取消了激光雷達選項。

Xpeng files for facelifted G6 and G9, both without LiDAR option

小鵬汽車提交了改款G6和G9的申請,兩者都沒有激光雷達選項

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