David Iben put it well when he said, 'Volatility is not a risk we care about. What we care about is avoiding the permanent loss of capital.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. As with many other companies PG&E Corporation (NYSE:PCG) makes use of debt. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
When Is Debt A Problem?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.
What Is PG&E's Net Debt?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of September 2024 PG&E had US$58.9b of debt, an increase on US$54.5b, over one year. And it doesn't have much cash, so its net debt is about the same.
How Healthy Is PG&E's Balance Sheet?
The latest balance sheet data shows that PG&E had liabilities of US$16.9b due within a year, and liabilities of US$88.4b falling due after that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of US$895.0m as well as receivables valued at US$12.7b due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling US$91.7b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This deficit casts a shadow over the US$43.2b company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely. At the end of the day, PG&E would probably need a major re-capitalization if its creditors were to demand repayment.
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).
Weak interest cover of 2.1 times and a disturbingly high net debt to EBITDA ratio of 6.2 hit our confidence in PG&E like a one-two punch to the gut. The debt burden here is substantial. However, it should be some comfort for shareholders to recall that PG&E actually grew its EBIT by a hefty 111%, over the last 12 months. If that earnings trend continues it will make its debt load much more manageable in the future. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if PG&E can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So the logical step is to look at the proportion of that EBIT that is matched by actual free cash flow. During the last three years, PG&E burned a lot of cash. While investors are no doubt expecting a reversal of that situation in due course, it clearly does mean its use of debt is more risky.
Our View
To be frank both PG&E's conversion of EBIT to free cash flow and its track record of staying on top of its total liabilities make us rather uncomfortable with its debt levels. But at least it's pretty decent at growing its EBIT; that's encouraging. It's also worth noting that PG&E is in the Electric Utilities industry, which is often considered to be quite defensive. Overall, it seems to us that PG&E's balance sheet is really quite a risk to the business. For this reason we're pretty cautious about the stock, and we think shareholders should keep a close eye on its liquidity. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. Be aware that PG&E is showing 2 warning signs in our investment analysis , and 1 of those doesn't sit too well with us...
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