These 4 Measures Indicate That Southern (NYSE:SO) Is Using Debt Extensively
These 4 Measures Indicate That Southern (NYSE:SO) Is Using Debt Extensively
Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We can see that The Southern Company (NYSE:SO) does use debt in its business. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
有人說波動性比債務更能反映投資者的風險,但禾倫·巴菲特曾說過:'波動性遠不是風險的同義詞。' 在考慮一家公司有多危險時,查看其資產負債表是非常自然的,因爲債務通常在企業崩潰時涉及其中。我們可以看到,南方公司(紐交所:SO)確實在其業務中使用債務。但更重要的問題是:這筆債務造成了多少風險?
Why Does Debt Bring Risk?
爲什麼債務帶來風險?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.
當企業無法輕鬆履行債務和其他負債時,便會面臨風險,無論是通過自由現金流還是以有吸引力的價格籌集資本。如果情況變得非常糟糕,債權人可以控制企業。然而,更常見(但仍然代價不菲)的情況是,公司必須以較低的股價稀釋股東權益,僅僅是爲了控制債務。然而,通過替代稀釋,債務可以成爲需要資本以高回報率進行增長投資的企業的極好工具。當我們考慮一家公司的債務使用時,我們首先將現金和債務一起看。
What Is Southern's Net Debt?
南方公司的淨債務是多少?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of September 2024 Southern had US$63.6b of debt, an increase on US$60.8b, over one year. And it doesn't have much cash, so its net debt is about the same.
您可以點擊下面的圖形查看歷史數據,但它顯示截至2024年9月,南方公司的債務爲636億美元,比過去一年增加了608億美元。而且它沒有太多現金,因此其淨債務大致相同。
A Look At Southern's Liabilities
查看南方公司的負債
According to the last reported balance sheet, Southern had liabilities of US$12.2b due within 12 months, and liabilities of US$94.9b due beyond 12 months. On the other hand, it had cash of US$1.02b and US$4.42b worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities total US$101.6b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
根據最近公佈的資產負債表,南方公司的負債爲122億美元,12個月內到期,12個月後到期的負債爲949億美元。另一方面,它現金爲10.2億美元,應收賬款爲44.2億美元,這些都將在一年內到期。因此,它的負債總額爲1016億美元,這超過了它的現金和短期應收賬款的總和。
Given this deficit is actually higher than the company's massive market capitalization of US$90.8b, we think shareholders really should watch Southern's debt levels, like a parent watching their child ride a bike for the first time. In the scenario where the company had to clean up its balance sheet quickly, it seems likely shareholders would suffer extensive dilution.
考慮到這個赤字實際上高於公司巨大的市場資本化908億美元,我們認爲股東確實應該關注南方公司的債務水平,就像父母第一次看着孩子騎自行車那樣。在公司必須迅速清理資產負債表的情況下,股東很可能會遭受嚴重的稀釋。
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
我們通過查看公司的淨負債與息稅折舊攤銷前利潤(EBITDA)的比例來衡量公司相對於其收益能力的債務負擔,以及計算其息稅前利潤(EBIT)覆蓋利息支出的能力(利息覆蓋率)。因此,我們在考慮收益時同時考慮了折舊與攤銷費用及不考慮這些費用的情況。
Southern has a debt to EBITDA ratio of 4.8 and its EBIT covered its interest expense 2.9 times. Taken together this implies that, while we wouldn't want to see debt levels rise, we think it can handle its current leverage. The good news is that Southern grew its EBIT a smooth 40% over the last twelve months. Like a mother's loving embrace of a newborn that sort of growth builds resilience, putting the company in a stronger position to manage its debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Southern's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
南方公司的債務與EBITDA的比率爲4.8,EBIT覆蓋其利息支出2.9倍。綜合來看,這表明,雖然我們不希望看到債務水平上升,但我們認爲它可以處理當前的槓桿。好消息是,南方公司在過去十二個月中,EBIT增長了40%。這種增長就像母親溫暖的懷抱,使公司在管理債務時更具彈性。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中學到的最多是關於債務的知識。但未來的收益,超過一切,將判斷南方公司是否能夠維持健康的資產負債表。因此,如果你專注於未來,可以查看這份顯示分析師利潤預測的免費報告。
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Over the last three years, Southern recorded negative free cash flow, in total. Debt is usually more expensive, and almost always more risky in the hands of a company with negative free cash flow. Shareholders ought to hope for an improvement.
但我們的最終考慮也很重要,因爲公司不能用紙上利潤來償還債務;它需要冷硬的現金。因此,我們顯然需要查看EBIT是否導致對應的自由現金流。在過去三年中,南方公司記錄的自由現金流爲負,總體而言。債務通常更昂貴,幾乎總是在擁有負自由現金流的公司的手中更具風險。股東們應該希望獲得改善。
Our View
我們的觀點
Mulling over Southern's attempt at converting EBIT to free cash flow, we're certainly not enthusiastic. But on the bright side, its EBIT growth rate is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. It's also worth noting that Southern is in the Electric Utilities industry, which is often considered to be quite defensive. Overall, we think it's fair to say that Southern has enough debt that there are some real risks around the balance sheet. If all goes well, that should boost returns, but on the flip side, the risk of permanent capital loss is elevated by the debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. We've identified 3 warning signs with Southern (at least 1 which shouldn't be ignored) , and understanding them should be part of your investment process.
考慮到南方公司將EBIT轉化爲自由現金流的嘗試,我們對此並不熱衷。 但好的一面是,它的EBIT增長率是一個好兆頭,使我們更加樂觀。 另外值得注意的是,南方公司處於公用股行業,這通常被認爲是相當防禦性的。 總體而言,我們認爲可以公平地說,南方公司有足夠的債務,因此在資產負債表上存在一些真實風險。如果一切順利,這將提升回報,但另一方面,債務提高了永久性資本損失的風險。 毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中了解了大部分關於債務的知識。然而,並非所有的投資風險都存在於資產負債表中——遠非如此。我們已經確定了南方公司的三個警告信號(至少有一個不可忽視),理解這些信號應該是您投資過程的一部分。
When all is said and done, sometimes its easier to focus on companies that don't even need debt. Readers can access a list of growth stocks with zero net debt 100% free, right now.
無論最終結果如何,有時候更容易關注那些根本不需要債務的公司。讀者可以立即免費獲取一份淨債務爲零的成長股列表。
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