We Think Telephone and Data Systems (NYSE:TDS) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
We Think Telephone and Data Systems (NYSE:TDS) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. We note that Telephone and Data Systems, Inc. (NYSE:TDS) does have debt on its balance sheet. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
傳奇基金經理李錄(查理·芒格支持的人)曾說過:'最大的投資風險不是價格的波動,而是你是否會遭受永久性的資本損失。' 所以,看起來聰明的資金知道,債務——這通常涉及破產——是評估公司風險時一個非常重要的因素。我們注意到電話和數據系統公司(紐交所:TDS)確實在其資產負債表上有債務。但真正的問題是,這些債務是否使公司變得風險較高。
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Of course, the upside of debt is that it often represents cheap capital, especially when it replaces dilution in a company with the ability to reinvest at high rates of return. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
當企業無法通過自由現金流或者以有吸引力的價格籌集資本來滿足債務和其他負債時,債務和其他負債就成爲一個風險。資本主義的一部分是「創造性破壞」過程,在這個過程中,銀行家會無情地清算倒閉的企業。雖然這種情況並不常見,但我們經常看到負債的公司因爲貸款人要求他們以低價籌集資本而永久稀釋股東的權益。當然,債務的好處是它通常代表了廉價的資本,特別是當它代替了在能夠以高回報率再投資的公司中稀釋股票時。考慮企業使用多少債務時,首先要做的就是看它的現金和債務情況。
What Is Telephone and Data Systems's Net Debt?
電話和數據系統公司的淨債務是多少?
As you can see below, at the end of September 2024, Telephone and Data Systems had US$4.13b of debt, up from US$3.86b a year ago. Click the image for more detail. However, because it has a cash reserve of US$451.0m, its net debt is less, at about US$3.68b.
正如您在下面看到的,到2024年9月底,電話和數據系統公司的債務爲41.3億美元,比一年前的38.6億美元有所增加。點擊圖片了解更多詳細信息。然而,由於其現金儲備爲45100萬美元,其淨債務較低,大約爲36.8億美元。
How Strong Is Telephone and Data Systems' Balance Sheet?
電話和數據系統的資產負債表有多強?
We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Telephone and Data Systems had liabilities of US$1.10b falling due within a year, and liabilities of US$6.74b due beyond that. Offsetting this, it had US$451.0m in cash and US$1.00b in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by US$6.39b.
我們可以從最新的資產負債表中看到,電話和數據系統的負債爲11億美元,需在一年內到期,而67.4億美元的負債則在此之後到期。對此,公司的現金爲45100萬美元,應收賬款爲10億美元,這些款項將在12個月內到期。因此,其負債超過現金和(短期)應收款之和63.9億美元。
This deficit casts a shadow over the US$3.89b company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely. At the end of the day, Telephone and Data Systems would probably need a major re-capitalization if its creditors were to demand repayment.
這種赤字給38.9億美元的公司帶來了陰影,就像一座巨人高聳於凡人之上。因此,我們確實認爲股東需要密切關注這一點。最終,如果債權人要求償還,電話和數據系統可能需要進行大規模的資本重組。
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).
我們通過查看淨債務與利息、稅、折舊和攤銷前收益(EBITDA)之比以及計算其利息支出由收益前利息和稅(EBIT)覆蓋的程度來度量一家公司的債務負載相對於其收益能力的程度。此方法的優點在於我們同時考慮了債務的絕對量(以淨債務爲EBITDA)以及與該債務相關的實際利息支出(以其利息覆蓋倍數計算)。
While we wouldn't worry about Telephone and Data Systems's net debt to EBITDA ratio of 3.2, we think its super-low interest cover of 0.82 times is a sign of high leverage. In large part that's due to the company's significant depreciation and amortisation charges, which arguably mean its EBITDA is a very generous measure of earnings, and its debt may be more of a burden than it first appears. It seems clear that the cost of borrowing money is negatively impacting returns for shareholders, of late. Looking on the bright side, Telephone and Data Systems boosted its EBIT by a silky 69% in the last year. Like the milk of human kindness that sort of growth increases resilience, making the company more capable of managing debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Telephone and Data Systems can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
雖然我們不會擔心電話和數據系統的淨負債與EBITDA比率爲3.2,但我們認爲其超低的利息覆蓋率爲0.82倍是高槓杆的跡象。這在很大程度上是由於公司的重大折舊和攤銷費用,這可能意味着其EBITDA是一個非常寬鬆的收益衡量標準,其負債可能比最初看起來的更爲沉重。顯然,借款成本對股東的回報產生了負面影響。幸運的是,電話和數據系統在過去一年中EBIT增長了69%。這種增長如同人間至善的牛奶,增加了公司的韌性,使其更能有效管理債務。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中學到了關於債務的大多數知識。但最終,業務未來的盈利能力將決定電話和數據系統能否隨着時間的推移增強其資產負債表。因此,如果你想知道專業人士的看法,你可能會發現這份關於分析師利潤預測的免費報告很有趣。
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Happily for any shareholders, Telephone and Data Systems actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT over the last three years. That sort of strong cash conversion gets us as excited as the crowd when the beat drops at a Daft Punk concert.
最後,雖然稅務官可能非常喜歡會計利潤,但貸方只接受現成的現金。 所以我們顯然需要看看EBIt是否帶來了相應的自由現金流。 對於任何股東來說,電話和數據系統在過去三年中實際產生的自由現金流超過了EBIt。 這種強勁的現金轉化讓我們和人群在Daft Punk音樂會上聽到重拍時一樣興奮。
Our View
我們的觀點
We feel some trepidation about Telephone and Data Systems's difficulty level of total liabilities, but we've got positives to focus on, too. To wit both its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow and EBIT growth rate were encouraging signs. Taking the abovementioned factors together we do think Telephone and Data Systems's debt poses some risks to the business. While that debt can boost returns, we think the company has enough leverage now. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. Be aware that Telephone and Data Systems is showing 1 warning sign in our investment analysis , you should know about...
我們對電話和數據系統的總負債難度感到一些擔憂,但我們也有積極的方面需要關注。 換句話說,它的EBIt轉化爲自由現金流和EBIt增長率都是令人鼓舞的跡象。 將上述因素結合在一起,我們確實認爲電話和數據系統的債務對業務存在一些風險。 雖然這筆債務可以提升回報,但我們認爲公司現在的槓桿程度已足夠。 毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表中學到的關於債務的知識是最多的。 然而,並不是所有的投資風險都存在於資產負債表中——遠非如此。 請注意,電話和數據系統在我們的投資分析中顯示出1個警告信號,您應該了解...
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當然,如果您是那種喜歡購買沒有債務負擔的股票的投資者,那麼不要猶豫,立即發現我們獨家的淨現金增長股票列表。
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