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Here's Why Ciena (NYSE:CIEN) Has A Meaningful Debt Burden

Here's Why Ciena (NYSE:CIEN) Has A Meaningful Debt Burden

以下是爲什麼Ciena(紐交所:CIEN)有着重要的債務負擔
Simply Wall St ·  09/15 21:31

The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We note that Ciena Corporation (NYSE:CIEN) does have debt on its balance sheet. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?

伯克希爾哈撒韋的查理·芒格支持的外部基金經理李錄毫不客氣地說:「最大的投資風險不是價格的波動性,而是你是否會遭受永久性的資本損失。」 當你考慮一家公司的資產負債表時,去看一下它的風險有多大是非常自然的,因爲債務在企業崩潰時往往會牽扯其中。我們注意到Ciena Corporation(紐交所: CIEN)的資產負債表上確實有負債。但是股東們應該擔心它的債務使用嗎?

Why Does Debt Bring Risk?

爲什麼債務會帶來風險?

Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.

一般來說,只有當公司無法輕鬆償還債務時,負債才會成爲真正的問題,無論是通過募集資金還是依靠自身的現金流。資本主義的烙印之一就是「創造性銷燬」的過程,在這個過程中,失敗的企業會被銀行家無情地清算。然而,更頻繁的(但仍然代價昂貴)情況是,公司必須以低至谷底的股價發行股份,從而永久稀釋股東,以支撐其資產負債表。當然,很多公司使用債務來資助成長,沒有任何負面影響。在考慮公司的負債水平時,第一步是考慮其現金和負債總額。

What Is Ciena's Net Debt?

Ciena的淨債務是多少?

The chart below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that Ciena had US$1.55b in debt in July 2024; about the same as the year before. However, it also had US$1.10b in cash, and so its net debt is US$448.8m.

下面的圖表可以點擊查看更詳細信息,顯示Ciena在2024年7月有15.5億美元的債務; 與前年相同。但是,它也有11億美元的現金,因此它的淨債務爲4488萬美元。

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NYSE:CIEN Debt to Equity History September 15th 2024
紐交所: CIEN 負債與權益的歷史數據截至2024年9月15日

How Healthy Is Ciena's Balance Sheet?

Ciena的資產負債表健康嗎?

We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Ciena had liabilities of US$870.6m falling due within a year, and liabilities of US$1.81b due beyond that. Offsetting this, it had US$1.10b in cash and US$1.09b in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by US$498.0m.

從最近的資產負債表可以看出,Ciena有總計US$87060萬的短期債務和US$18.1億的長期債務。與此相抵,其短期內到期的現金和應收帳款總計US$11億和US$10.9億。因此,其負債超過了其現金和(短期)應收帳款的總和US$49800萬。

Since publicly traded Ciena shares are worth a total of US$8.11b, it seems unlikely that this level of liabilities would be a major threat. But there are sufficient liabilities that we would certainly recommend shareholders continue to monitor the balance sheet, going forward.

由於公開交易的Ciena股票總價值US$81.1億,這種程度的負債似乎不太可能構成重大威脅。但有足夠的負債,我們當然建議股東繼續監控資產負債表的發展。

In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).

爲了衡量公司相對於其收益的債務情況,我們計算其淨負債除以利息、稅項、折舊和攤銷前收益(EBITDA)和其利息支出除以利息前收益(EBIT)的比例(其利息覆蓋率)。這種方法的優點是,我們既考慮了債務的絕對量(淨負債與 EBITDA),又考慮到了與該債務相關的實際利息支出(其利息覆蓋率)。

While Ciena's low debt to EBITDA ratio of 1.2 suggests only modest use of debt, the fact that EBIT only covered the interest expense by 6.5 times last year does give us pause. But the interest payments are certainly sufficient to have us thinking about how affordable its debt is. The modesty of its debt load may become crucial for Ciena if management cannot prevent a repeat of the 39% cut to EBIT over the last year. When a company sees its earnings tank, it can sometimes find its relationships with its lenders turn sour. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Ciena's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.

雖然Ciena的負債和EBITDA比率僅爲1.2,表明只有適度使用債務,但去年EBIt僅覆蓋了利息支出的6.5倍,這讓我們有所顧慮。但利息支付肯定足夠讓我們思考其債務的可負擔性。如果管理團隊無法阻止%39的EBIt下降再次發生,那麼其負債負載的適度性可能變得關鍵。當一家公司的盈利出現暴跌時,有時會發現其與貸款人的關係變得惡化。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表上了解到的負債信息最多。但是,更重要的是未來的盈利將決定Ciena維持健康資產負債表的能力。如果您想了解專業人士的看法,您可能會對這份關於分析師盈利預測的免費報告感興趣。

Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So we always check how much of that EBIT is translated into free cash flow. Over the last three years, Ciena reported free cash flow worth 18% of its EBIT, which is really quite low. For us, cash conversion that low sparks a little paranoia about is ability to extinguish debt.

最後,雖然稅務部門可能喜歡會計利潤,但債權人只接受現金。所以我們總是檢查有多少EBIT被轉化爲自由現金流。在過去的三年裏,Ciena報告的自由現金流價值僅爲其EBIT的18%,這實際上相當低。對我們來說,這麼低的現金轉換率對能否還清債務引發了一點偏執狂。

Our View

我們的觀點

Ciena's struggle to grow its EBIT had us second guessing its balance sheet strength, but the other data-points we considered were relatively redeeming. But on the bright side, its ability to handle its debt, based on its EBITDA, isn't too shabby at all. When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that Ciena is taking some risks with its use of debt. So while that leverage does boost returns on equity, we wouldn't really want to see it increase from here. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. For example - Ciena has 2 warning signs we think you should be aware of.

Ciena努力增加其EBIT使我們對其資產負債表實力產生了一些懷疑,但我們考慮的其他數據點相對較光明。但令人振奮的是,根據其EBITDA來看,它處理債務的能力並不差。當我們綜合考慮了所有討論的因素後,我們認爲Ciena在債務使用方面承擔了一些風險。因此,儘管這種槓桿會提高股東權益的回報,但我們不希望再見它增加了。毫無疑問,我們從資產負債表上了解到債務的大部分信息。然而,並不是所有的投資風險都存在於資產負債表中,遠非如此。例如,Ciena有2個警示信號,我們認爲您應該知道。

At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.

歸根結底,專注於沒有淨債務的公司往往更好。您可以訪問我們的特別列表,其中包括所有表現出盈利增長軌跡的公司。這是免費的。

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