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【知乎高赞】赌徒为什么输光了还不走?

[Zhihu Praise] Why don't gamblers leave even after losing?

格隆汇 ·  Mar 30, 2019 10:06

Stock speculation is not the same as gambling, but the psychological process of losing money is similar.

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It is said that when Stanley Ho, the king of gambling, took over the Lisboa casino, business was booming, but the king was still nervous and asked Yehan, the "god of gamblers": "what if these brothers always lose, and in the long run, they don't come?" Ye Han said with a smile:"once a gambler, a lifelong gambler, what they are worried about is what if the casino is gone."

There is a hot question on Zhihu Inc.:What kind of mentality causes gamblers to "lose all, do not go, borrow money to stay" behavior?

In fact, whether it is a real person gambling or a slot machine, some people can be regarded as determined to leave after losing all of them. some people come back after losing money, and some people borrow money after losing. why is it like this, how to crack it, is it delirious or drugged, or is it addicted?

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Among the 657 answers under the question, some of them were even more than 20,000, which resonated with many people.

Charlie Munger once said bluntly that the nature of the stock market is a big casino, and that the way the racecourse shares its bets by winning or losing is a stock market system in which everyone goes in to bet, and opportunities change as the bet changes.

The difference between gambling and investment is on the front line. ID:ipopress about IPO has selected three highly praised answers to share with you.

Respondent: River flow

Number of likes: 4.1k

As a person who emigrated to Macau and worked in casinos for a long time, I think I should still be qualified to answer.

Many people do not understand why there are so many people who are duty-bound to sink when they know that gambling is harmful to the family and harmful to life.

Because of human nature, people's original desires are always greedy. People who work will hope that they can earn more money, those who fall in love will yearn for more love from each other, people who strive for progress will seek higher self-realization, and ordinary people will look forward to a life without setbacks. In fact, everyone has greed, greed is your desire, but each of us seek different things.

I have come into contact with many gamblers who have a strength beyond the reach of most people. the money they lose in one night is the savings of ordinary people for ten years. Some bosses would rather give the money to the casino than pay off the months' wages he owes his employees. The real guests of casinos are never those addicted gamblers, but those who control the rice bowls of countless ordinary people and stand at the top of the food chain.

Next, I will take some of my clients as examples to give you a deeper understanding of the nature of these gamblers.

Generally speaking, long-term gamblers in Macau are divided into three main categories:

1. Adventure gambler

Boss An is a 30-year-old rich second generation who comes to Macao once a month. He will take two to 3 million chips every time, and he will bet four or five hundred thousand at the beginning of each time. If he wins, he will continue to press this number. If he sees a good way, he will bet 800000. If only a few hundred thousand were left to lose, he would not hesitate to put it all under pressure. In less than 20 minutes from the beginning to the end, he either won four or five million or lost it all.

What do you think gambling is for him? It's exciting! What he cares about is not how much money he wins, but the thrill that his heart beats faster and finally gets what he wants. At the moment of winning the money, it seemed that the world was on his side and was favored by fate.

How many times can we experience this pleasure in our lives? To put it simply, the future is always unknown, but at the moment you win, you seem to control your future world as you wish, and the unknown becomes foresight. But casinos are the least afraid of this kind of people. You win a hundred times, but you may lose back with interest at once.

Because such people never admit defeat. Such people are actually a lot more successful in business, but they end up being losers in casinos.

two。 Dependent gamblers

Boss B is a rural entrepreneur whose age is about fifty years old. He usually takes 2 million yuan to play, only tens of thousands of dollars at a time, and if he wins, he takes the money he wins. He often gambles smoothly, takes no haste, and wins 80 to 1 million each time.

He tried to win for a whole month, sometimes hundreds of thousands, sometimes 1 million, but he didn't lose much anyway. But once he loses more than 500000 of his principal, his whole person will be completely different. He will press hundreds of thousands and hundreds of thousands very urgently and impulsively. Of course, once the principal is won back, he will press tens of thousands more. It wasn't until once that I saw a man gambling and possessed for the first time after he lost several games in a row. He lost several rounds in a row, and then he began to bet hundreds of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands more, and then he lost it all, and then he lost, and then he took millions of dollars to press like this crazily.

He lost about 20 million that week. He once said that Macao casinos can win money for a long time, as long as you are not too greedy, you will win a lot of money in the end.

Later, when I thought about it, the profit of his company was about three or four million a year, but he had already earned his hard-earned money after staying in Macao for more than a week. Not only him, but also many people who are addicted to gambling in reality.

Gambling, where is it scary? It's scary because it's easy to make you misunderstand that your efforts are getting cheaper. It makes you lose the enthusiasm to work hard to make money, and it also gives you the idea of running away from life. In this world, even professional gamblers cannot make money by gambling, only by setting up gambling companies.

3. Empty gamblers

Bosses C and D are big clients, and they have billions of dollars in assets. But you can't imagine that they spend more than 20 days a month in Macao, and they don't hesitate to apply for Philippine passports in order to stay in Macao for a long time. Boss C has been in the slot machine lounge of MGM for a long time. He can sit on the slot machine for 12 hours without even leaving for dinner. Boss D loves to play baccarat and stays at the table for a long time. He is not happy when he wins money and doesn't react much when he loses money.

Once the boss C told me that these slot machines pretend to be dissatisfied even if they have no matter how much money they have. Then I asked him, then you still love to play! 'because there's nothing I want to do except this,'he said. 'that's all I like to do.

At first, I couldn't figure out what it was. There was so much money and how much could be done. Why did I have to give the money to the casino? Then I figured it out, and we were naturally confused by the "successful people" on TV books. We take it for granted that if they succeed, they should change the world like Jobs, pursue greater achievements like Jack Ma, and devote themselves to philanthropy like Buffett, but I didn't think of some people. they have too much money and they don't know what to do.

With this asset, it is not difficult to have what you want. I have eaten delicacies, I have been on a movie star, and I have enjoyed all the advanced services and supplies. You said you were satisfied with the pursuit of achievement and making so much money. When you say charity, I earn the money. I don't have to give it away. What's next, gambling? anyway, there's plenty of money. Behind the game of money is just an exhausted heart.

In the end, boss C lost tens of millions of dollars in debt, and boss D was still sinking on the gambling table.

The above is all about the nature of gambling, and then let's talk about the external influence.

Friends who have been to Macau should know that casinos have many preferential temptations for you to come again. If you gamble with a membership card, you can swipe points, which can be sent to your mobile phone to your hotel room or even to you. And the VIP lounge usually depends on the laundry code (gambling hall intermediary) to bring big guests over, you come to gamble will help you book a hotel, send a chauffeured car to pick you up, they will have a meal, and if you gamble big, they will send a helicopter to pick you up. Sometimes I even buy this and that for you, which is more intimate than purchasing agents.

Many tourists may not know that many VIP lounges sign codes directly for you to gamble, that is, once you recognize your strength, you don't have to bring gambling principal when you come to Macau, he lends you money from the gambling hall. If you win, you can take it in cash, and if you lose, you will transfer the money to a deadline. This has become a very mature business chain.

If you think the limit on the gambling table is too low, or if you want to play something exciting, you can drag it to the bottom, drag 2 to 3, or even drag 50 to 100 million. If you love gambling and find it troublesome to go to Macau, yes, there are phone bets here. If you install a baccarat software, he will tell you the points for each one, and he will give you as much as you say.

Why do so many people love baccarat? is it fair? Wrong! Because it has a way! The road is the greatest scam in the world, and it makes everyone who plays baccarat believe in the law of the situation.

Finally, as a Macao resident who has been here for eight years, I would like to say that I have never liked Macao very much. This is a city that shows the word money first so nakedly that even the luxurious and gorgeous Shanghai can not compare with the reality of Macao.

Even in the casino business, I sincerely hope that you do not get too close to gambling, it is toxic and will make you die.

I feel that my writing is getting more and more off topic. I want to answer the main question: why do they have to lose all their money and even borrow money? Because of a wordIf you gamble, you don't lose. Most gamblers are reluctant to admit that they are losers.

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Respondent: anonymous

Number of likes: 7.9k

Maybe there are few people on Zhihu Inc. who are so miserable and dehumanized because of gambling, and they never thought they would become like this.

After 11 years of contact with the periphery of gambling, the first bet of 4000 yuan won about 26000 yuan when he bought a surprise. As mentioned above, what gamblers can't cure is the subversion of values and the denial of the value of labor. In less than three months, he won more than 290000 yuan, and the principal was no more than 55000 yuan, while the normal work was so hard that it was very difficult to repay the mortgage, eat and drink, eat and drink, and keep a car for daily use.

I unexpectedly quit my job as a staff member of a large construction state-owned enterprise at that time and went home to gamble on football. This was the beginning of my self-destruction.

Not to mention the specific process, gamble every day, one to five major leagues are fighting all night. I also studied a lot and pretended to make a plan. But still win a few days, a day to wash white, inevitably began to lose money.

The existence of the banker pumping is to win and pump you 3% to five, and the game tends to be infinitely negative. It is ridiculous to say that I still come from the background of budget cost, which is a simple truth that all primary school students know. When I'm possessed, I just want to gamble all the time.

By 15 years, I was at the end of my rope. Even the 500000 yuan my parents left me to get married and have children was lost on the grounds that I wanted to buy a house and invest in it. Lost only a few thousand yuan, can not afford to repay the mortgage, food is a problem.

In fact, if I had stopped at that time, I could still have a good life in finding a job. But the denial of the value of labor has been deeply ingrained, not to mention the experience of winning $7000 to 140000 in a weekend.

By this time I was already a walking corpse controlled by dopamine and began the second step towards destruction.

When I was out of money, I suddenly remembered that I had investment promotion, transportation and Citic credit cards that had never been used, and these cards had all kinds of loans. Then I used my card to get seven or eight cards, and began my way of mending the sky. I could not accept defeat and planned to win back all I had lost in half a year.

The gambler's ability to raise money is terrible. I finally got 11 cards and raised 400000 of the money. Slowly and patiently, or even hundreds of times. Sure enough, he achieved his goal in the first month, and the poor heart hinted that he could not be impatient.

However, everything is futile after all, even when losing, what plan, stop loss are left behind, just want to buy a big one to get back to the capital quickly. Contrary to the law of the development of things, what goes against heaven is the pitiful fantasy of betting on dogs, and finally less than three months from winning more than 200,000 to emptying.

At this time has lost interest in anything, looking for a job is even more ridiculous, but also received a lot of company personnel invitations.

Even when I have no money to eat and pay property fees and electricity bills, I am unwilling to go to work. The most terrible thing is to deny the value of labor. At this time, I have already lost more than 1.1 million. More than 900,000 came from parents and banks.

The huge debt crisis and the psychological hint of wanting to turn a profit led me to madness and demise, and I began to borrow money crazily from loansharking companies on the market, such as Ping an and Citic. I have property and driving license, under the quota is still more, a family of 600, 000 to 100, 000, the interest is a terrible monthly interest of 3%, I lost all in less than half a year.

At this time, the credit card can not be filled, China Merchants, Bank of China more than half a year overdue, are ready to sue me. I couldn't afford to repay the small loan. I later calculated that I had to repay more than 60,000 a month, and the interest alone was more than 20,000 a month.

If I can communicate well with my family at this time, borrow money from my relatives and friends to fill the loophole and completely quit gambling, I can continue to be a human being.

But I didn't. I actually sold a 130-square-meter house without telling my parents. After getting the rest of the mortgage payment, there is only a pitiful 500,000 yuan left after paying off all the debts.

So I found a hotel for a month, my phone was turned off and the Internet Silver Shield kept gambling. I was shouting in my heart that I had to win back. If I had to win at least 500000, I wouldn't gamble and buy a small mortgage house to live a good life.

A month later, I lost only 30,000 yuan.

At this time, I had planned to commit suicide. I was really sorry to my parents. I wrote a suicide note and transferred 30,000 yuan of Alipay to my mother.

But standing upstairs in the hotel, my feet kept shaking. I'm really scared. I spit on myself. I'm not afraid of anything when I gamble, but now I'm scared to death.

On the night when I made up my mind to buy a lot of booze, my parents found me through my room records. I was missing for a month, and my father told me to go home. When I got home, I lay in bed for two months and did nothing, and my family didn't blame me too much.

Everything made a big mistake. In particular, the house price rose by more than 1 million in the second year, and my parents worked hard all their lives to open a restaurant for me to buy a house in the city to make a down payment. The wedding money I raised was squandered by me in a short period of two or three years, so the once wealthy family was overwhelmed.

After half a year, I didn't think of committing suicide, and I was determined to quit gambling and be a good man. But the distorted values over the years have made it impossible for me to start a new life. I lived with my parents in my hometown for half a year. The monthly salary of the similar job I am looking for is less than 3000 yuan, the huge gap and the financial situation when I did not gamble, as well as the horizontal comparison with my former colleagues and classmates make me think it is better to commit suicide. Just be brave and sorry to your parents.

At this time, I am 30 years old, have no house, only a long car, penniless, can be said to have nothing. Divorced after 14 years of marriage because of gambling. Later, I didn't go to work. I played duo Ta 2 at home every day, thinking about when to hit the road.

Until one day my father came to my room and said to me, "son, go to the old city and start over." Find a smaller company, one step at a time. Your mother and I will give you our full support. Forget about the past. I made a deal with your mother to remortgage a small house of 60 to 70 square meters with a pension plus the rent of the store in recent years. "

I decided to quit gambling and live a good life. I know in my heart that if I still have money, I can't help myself and gamble. So I transfer Wechat to my mother on my monthly salary and ask my mother to transfer 100 to my food allowance every day. I canceled all my credit cards myself.

I have given up gambling for 14 months, and although my savings are only enough to play a Premier League game and buy a toilet area in this big city, I can chat with my parents and buy them small gifts. I can safely look at myself in the mirror and say that you are still alone. I hope I can make up for my mistakes in my lifetime.

Respondent: bliss

Number of likes: 20K

There is a "tent" at home (a gambling establishment on a boat) to talk about how people's gambling psychology is used. Instead of "small gambling", light a cigarette and talk about the big one directly.

Casino three steps:

1. Raising pigs

two。 Kill a pig

3. Raise pigs with pigs

I didn't quote the pig here, because people were pigs at that time. (pig says: you insult me)

1. Raising pigs-greed in the hearts of the people (we can see the blind narcissism in the depths of people's hearts)

In the casino, I keep a group of people for them to eat, go whoring and gamble. In the dialect, they are called "ideas", and I call them "disciples". They are not free to eat, drink, gamble for nothing, they are hunting dogs, have a keen sense of smell, know which people are pigs, they hang out in various places of entertainment and make friends.

Once there was a "disciple" who wanted to quit, and the rule was to pay 50,000 hush money to live in another city. He is still young, in his early 30s, and he is addicted to being a "disciple". Who doesn't want to eat and drink for free every day, bluffing, and commission?

I asked him, why did he quit if he didn't earn enough money for the aged? People in this line of work all know that this is immoral, they have no good results, and they can save some for their children.

'it 's so cruel, I can't stand it,'he said.

This thing is really cruel, this disciple is called "black", has a lot of brains, and has made a big list.

"Heizi" likes to go whoring, so he is arranged to catch those "perverts" in the bath city.

This time, the "dirty guy" caught by the "sunspot" was not bad, and he really had a relationship with the "sunspot". When he killed the pig, he didn't pay the money, and he didn't want to lie to his friend again, so he was chopped off a hand, worth 30,000 yuan in interest. Heizi felt guilty because of this and didn't want to do it.

In a casino, as long as you still have feelings and are not ruthless, don't do it, or you will stumble sooner or later. Heizi walks well, he knows himself, he is not narcissistic, this is what people lack most.

Now let me talk about how to raise pigs.

"disciples" go out to find "friends", and then occasionally come to gamble together. As long as they come, they will not be far from death.

First, do not lose, do not win, there is a heartbeat every day, do not spend money, as long as there is nothing to do, want to do two hands, at first will not let you win, people are not pigs at this time, know how to stop in time, earn as a game, do not go. It will not let you lose. If you lose, you will be afraid, and if you are afraid, you will not come.

At this time, people are the most careful, careful, for fear of being deceived, and brains.

Come two or three times, gradually like, also not as careful as before, vigilance will be lowered, at this time, you should win money.

Despite the hustle and bustle of the casino, I'm telling you, at least half of it is "stooges". They are special troublemakers, they are called "nails" in dialect, and I call them "grain", which is the "food" fed to dogs in Pavlov's classical conditioned reflex.

It is not convenient to reveal too much, just say a "Za Jinhua", usually three "stooges" on the table and a pig. Will let the pig win money, and then a stooge jumped out, saying that the pig cheated, the pig did not recognize, and then the casino came out to resolve the dispute, proved that the pig was innocent, asked the stooge to apologize, and then was invited out. You think there's only money in the casino? What is in a person's heart, he has, falsely accusing you of being a cheat, making you angry, proving your innocence, and giving you comfort. At this time, a few more handfuls, "you are really good, card luck is so prosperous, today wearing red underwear?"

At this time, people begin to show their bad roots, become narcissistic and believe that they are the god of gamblers for no reason. If you go through your pockets and you only win a few yuan, you will regard yourself as invincible. When a man thinks he gambles hard, he begins to become a pig. Blindly trust yourself, at this time, all the money lost has become a temporary bad luck.

As you win more and more, you bet more and more, and you become more and more lazy to think.

Then accidentally, lose a little, lose a little more, win a little, lose a big one. After that, you'll never get your money back. You may win a little, but it's a far cry from what you lost.

You will lose more and more, but what you think is that I will win back what I lost. I will never gamble again. People who have gambled must be able to empathize with the saying, "I want to break even." You give money as a motive to make money, and you act on the outside of each other.

There is no money, borrow from friends, take the money at home, if you can stop in time, you can still be saved, go back to work for a few years, but also close the loophole, once you dare to borrow money from people in the casino, you will be irrevocable.

My family generally put usury is 3 points, that is, the interest is 30%, but lent to gamblers, the interest is 7 points, and ridiculously, these pigs see the money, a look of gratitude, they will not ask interest. Shit, it's narcissistic. Who do you think you are? Lend you money for nothing?

Of course, you must have lost the money you borrowed. Pigs are brainless, and there is only money piled up, not to make money, but to send money.

The pigs have been fattened.

Killing pigs is a technical job, and people with brains are generally needed to design schemes. in the eyes of outsiders, my family is the fourth master (in our place, my father's younger brother is called "ye", and the fourth master is my father's fourth younger brother). He is ruthless enough. On the road will respect him "Wang Ye", because his name is "Wang Ye", homonym. But the family knows that the fourth master listens to my father.

When I was a child, my father was an official in the town. Because he gave birth to me, he was caught in the struggle. It's beside the point. I have the opportunity to talk about this again. Anyway, it just shows that my father is a cultural man, and it takes a cultural person to kill pigs.

I don't know if you have ever seen the killing of pigs in rural areas. To put it bluntly, there are only three points: hold down, kill, and let go.

But there is great learning and great learning in these six words. Hold down: let the pig hoof in the air, so that the pig lost its foundation; in casinos, usually when it comes to killing pigs, they will call back a group of people in other farms, which is called "Zazi" in dialect, that is, goons, and I call them "scum". They are the most inhumane group of people, they are all old Youtiao, the "yellow hair" who just came out of technical school is not suitable for this, I have done a project to test their MMPI (Minnesota scale), they are people with a high tendency to mental illness.

When pigs start to lose, they need money, borrow casinos, owe money, and these people collect debts.

How to ask for it?

A little bit, will not kill you with a stick, will intimidate you, catch a beating at night, but are painless, the destruction is the hearts of the people.

He will throw paint on your house and write "repay your debt and pay your life" gory. Big red words are written on the door. My mother is a scholar, saying that my father is uneducated and that he is just in debt. What do you want to do with your life? My mother does not understand, without the word "kill", the momentum is much weaker, this is intimidation, it is hypnosis, the word "kill" is engraved into your brain and fear invades your body. Pay for your life!

However, there will always be a way for you to live. When a person has no way to go and loses hope, he will lose his humanity. Without humanity, he will be terrified, and they will all be burned. All the casinos have to do is to turn them into pig brains, and human nature is still necessary.

Will give you a few days, a few more days, this "procrastination" word is really great wisdom. "procrastination" is to give you time to borrow, you go to borrow money, although compared to the gap is too far, but it will make pigs betray their relatives.

Let the pig's feet hang in the air!

People who are addicted to gambling must betray their relatives. Very often, family members do not understand why they still gamble after losing so much. I will explain it to you with the "object relationship" of psychoanalysis.

Owe money, go back to borrow, find friends, find relatives, they are grandchildren. Scolded by Laozi for being unfilial and incompetent by his wife, that is, children have to take a detour when they see themselves. In this environment, how much will people put up with?

Back to the casino, as long as you promised to put it off for how many days, during this period, as long as you come to gamble, you are still an uncle, not to mention that you owe money, to take good care of you.

Everyone knows how to choose, be a grandson or an uncle, owe money, the pig is pushed to destruction step by step.

People betray their relatives, the family hates it, and the pig is completely pinned down.

two。 Kill a pig: kill with one knife

Overnight, the faces you call brothers have all changed, and you have no idea what's going on. Want money, otherwise 30,000 buyers, 50,000 buy legs, hanging, hanging (here omit a few words, for the sake of harmony).

Will not say the words to death at once, will slowly, warm water boil, a little bit to grind your willpower, the key, but also give you time to think. Righteousness is mostly a dog butcher, thinking less is easy to be impulsive, thinking too much, thinking too much, people will be dull, will be pussy, will save their lives.

Let you think, let you think, let you be tortured, the knife went in and obeyed (this paragraph is less, save a lot, sorry everyone).

3. Herding pigs: neither early nor too late

If you put it early, the pig will resist, and the pig with strength is very scary. The casino has been burned from a pig that has become a human being. Put late, the pig will be dead, no vitality, want to kill whatever, money is gone, chopping hands is a last resort, the underworld do not kill pigs.

There is an old man in the field, he can see at a glance whether it is time to let go, the old man is gone, only my father, my father is not willing to do this, he taught the following people a way. To see if the pig is willing to sell his wife and daughter, yes, it means the time has come, but if even the son is willing to sell, it will be too late.

How much wisdom there is in it!

In ancient times, when a tomb was robbed, one entered the tomb and the other picked it up. Generally speaking, these two people were father and son, and they buried the people under the tomb in order to prevent the people who received the objects from seeing the money. However, in general, when Laozi goes in, there are many people whose sons bury Laozi. How to solve it later? Change it over, son, go in, I'm outside. Letting the pig go is the beginning.

4. Raise pigs with pigs

Friends who have raised chickens in the countryside should know that few of a flock of chickens are alive in the end, and a few will die in a few days, not starving to death, but being bitten to death.

Can you guess which chickens bit them? Must be the stronger chickens?

No, on the contrary, it is those who are relatively weak, just this behavior, how many laws are written?

There is the venting of the weak and the selfishness of fighting for food. Pigs are released, there is no need to force, they will take the initiative to harm people, they need to understand, need to talk, what is the best understanding? What is the best way to talk?

Let you also feel, you can understand. They began to deceive friends to gamble and relatives to gamble. It seems that the more people become pigs, the less lonely they are.

Conclusion

Stock speculation is not the same as gambling, but the psychological process of losing money is similar.

To take the most typical example: before the peak of a bull market, each participant is confident that he can escape the top. But the result is painful, one by one the case of explosion is shocking.

In the fourth episode of the Swordsman, Chef Li is wise to blind me, and Bai Pirates meets the gambling king, pointing to Xuanyuan (Big mouth Niang) to sum up the truth that "you must lose if you gamble for a long time".

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The way to never lose is never to gamble. Gamblers' behavior of "losing all, not leaving, borrowing money to stay" is the weakness of human nature. Cherish life and stay away from gambling. Investment is risky, so you need to be careful when entering the market.

On the last trading day of March in Yangchun, the Prev closed up 3.2% at 3090.76 points. Good luck!

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